DC - Joker 2 / The Penguin

[B.B Homemaker]

[Ostrea]

J'ignore si on l'avait dit ici mais le budget estimé pour le film (sans le marketing, j'imagine) s'élèverait à : $300M.

 

On dépasse donc allègrement celui de BvS ($250M).

 

Bref, on sait quel seuil le film se doit de dépasser pour apparaître comme un succès !

 

Allez, plus que quelques jours à attendre ! Tellement excité, surtout qu'il y a désormais plein d'affiches du film en ville !

[Kinderfeld]

Moi je dois attendre une semaine supplémentaire, il sera dans mon ciné que le 22.

 

Un peu déçu de la BO, ça manque de magie, de puissance, c'est un peu "je fais le job et bye bye".

[RedNBlue Kingdom]

Clairement moins d1 milliard serait une déception pour moi surtout au vue des scores de Thor alors que le film na pas eu la hype de JL à mon sens

[Ostrea]

Totalement.

 

Dans tous les cas, l'embargo sur les critiques sera levé les 14 et 15/11 (selon le fuseau horaire) aux USA.

[Ostrea]

Un mec du site Comicbook.com a publié ses premiers retours. Bon, c'est un fan de comics donc voilà mais il a bien kiffé j'ai l'impression (malgré un méchant simple en CGI). Il dit qu'on ressort avec l'envie d'en avoir + de chacun des héros qui ont été très bien mis en avant. Selon le mec, JL fait office d'un nouveau départ pour le DCEU...

 

Ah aussi, il y aura deux scènes post générique !

[B.B Homemaker]

Les retours sur les réseaux sociaux commencent à tomber, pour le moment ça penche vers du bon (avec quelques problèmes de narration), à de l'excellence. Cependant, ils sont tous d'accord sur une chose : les membres de la JL sont fantastiques !

 

Il ne nous reste plus qu'à retenir notre souffle pour Rotten Tomatoes...

 

[Kinderfeld]

Oui et on a du fun, encore du fun et que du fun. Certains dégomment suicide squad et batman v superman, comme d'hab pour encenser le nouveau film.

 

[B.B Homemaker]

Oui et on a du fun, encore du fun et que du fun. Certains dégomment suicide squad et batman v superman, comme d'hab pour encenser le nouveau film.

 

Wonder Woman à son tort, avait aussi bénéficié de beaucoup de "fun". Parfois, ça signifie que la personne a passé un bon moment.

[Kinderfeld]

Mais là on a genre des trucs comme "c'est la fin du ton dark de bvs, si vous aimez pas bvs, ce film est fait pour vous ect".

[B.B Homemaker]

Ça reste son ressenti. Encore, les mêmes paroles sortaient pour WW, qui ne ressemble pourtant pas à une production Marvel.

[Kinderfeld]

Je l'espère, je garde la foi. A ce stade là, j'ai la hype pour mon superman. J'espère qu'il sera bien dans le film.

[Ostrea]

Je l'espère, je garde la foi. A ce stade là, j'ai la hype pour mon superman. J'espère qu'il sera bien dans le film.

 

Je vois mal le personnage faire partie de la promo (certains posters, certaines vidéos) et Cavill participer à la promo sans aucune apparition.

 

Il y sera !

 

[Kanata.]

[Ostrea]

 

'Justice League': The Biggest Takeaways From Critic Reactions

The first reactions to Justice League have been posted on social media, and aside from giving us the usual range of opinion about whether or not the movie is good, these first breakdowns of the film also provide new insights into what the film is about, what works and doesn't work, and how this pivotal installment will affect the future of the DC Extended Universe.

 

Read on below for a more in-depth breakdown of the first reactions to Justice League, and what that proverbial 'wisdom of the crowd' tells us about DC Films' big superhero team-up event.

 

Here are the biggest takeaways from the Justice League first reactions:

 

Slide 1/5 – Great Heroes

Justice League Best Worst Reviews Reactions

 

The first main consensus is that Justice League succeeds in its primary job: selling the Justice League heroes to mainstream movie audiences.

 

Industry figures like our very own Brandon Davis note that Justice League does well at selling its core team (Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg - and yes, Superman) as both an entertaining ensemble, and as individual stars.

 

Almost every critic agrees that, while still somewhat problematic (more on that below), Justice League still manages to establish a new tone for the DC Films Universe, and will make fans want to explore more of that universe, going forward.

 

If those assessments hold true for mainstream viewers, then DC/WB will have finally hurdled over the major branding wall that its been trying to scale for the last few years.

 

Slide 2/5 – Weak Villains

Justice League Movie Steppenwolf

 

Almost diametrically opposed to the praise of the Justice League heroes is the criticism of the film's villain. The Justice League battles the extraterrestrial threat of Steppenwolf, general of the hellish planet, Apokolips.

 

Steppenwolf is played by actor Ciaran Hinds (Game of Thrones), but Hinds admittedly did most of his work through facial capture and voice performance - he didn't even meet or interact with the rest of the cast while filming! It's not surprising, then, that Steppenwolf comes off as a generic and uninspired villain, since he is mostly a hollow creation to begin with.

 

Truthfully, Steppenwolf was always a somewhat offbeat choice in villain for a massive event film like Justice League; the general of Apokolips is basically just a placeholder for his uncle, Darkseid, and it sounds like that's just what you feel like when watching the film.

 

Slide 3/5 – Messy Mythos

Justice League Amazons vs Steppenwolf Apokolips

 

Justice League has teased an expansive look at the DC Films Universe, with each hero bringing their own corner of the world along with them, and flashbacks detailing more of the history of earth and its three main races: mankind, the Amazons, and the Atlanteans.

 

However, the first Justice League reactions state that the film's story is mess, with stakes that don't feel crucial enough, and a narrative that unfolds in poor way.

 

Justice League was always facing a massive challenge with all the characters, villains, and mythos it needs to introduce and explain, so it's not surprising to hear it doesn't cover all of those fronts well.

 

Slide 4/5 – Clear Standouts

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While there is praise of the overall ensemble chemistry and character depictions, various critics have highlighted some clear standouts in the cast.

 

Of everyone, it seems to be Jason Mamoa's Aquaman who is the clear frontrunner for 'best in show.' Mamoa is said to be a well-balanced combination of humor and badassery, earning his spot as this DC Films Universe version of Aquaman, despite being different than his comic book counterpart.

 

After that, the two other biggest standouts have been Ezra Miller's Flash, for being hilarious, and Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman, for continuing her reign as the new queen of comic book movies.

 

Slide 5/5 – The Snyder/Whedon Balance

Joss Whedon Zack Snyder Justice League

 

If there is one really surprising takeaway from these first Justice League reactions, it's that many critics still deem it to be very much a Zack Snyder movie.

 

As critic Kevin McCarthy states on Twitter: "JUSTICE LEAGUE is ZACK SNYDER’s movie. With the exception of MAYBE ONE scene, the movie didn’t feel like it jumped in tone from Snyder to Whedon. I’ve seen it 2x."

 

This sentiment has been echoed across many of the Justice League first reactions, with critics seemingly able to note when "Whedon moments" come up in the film.

 

However, for those who followed Justice League's production process closely, the worries of Snyder having botched the film and Whedon trying to stitch something together out of the resulting mess, seem unfounded. If anything, it sounds like Whedon simply applied the polish that Snyder would have in a normal post-production process - if not for the personal tragedy that pulled him away from the film.