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CHRIS(tine and the Queens) — Damn, dis-moi/Girlfriend (feat. Dâm-Funk)

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  1. 1. Damn, dis-moi ce que tu penses du nouveau titre?

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Il y a 2 heures, Matangi a dit :

A la limite quand tu es un chanteur débutant qui ne connait aucun producteur et qui n'a pas de "réseau", ce n'est pas grave de reprendre une instru existant déjà sur un logiciel ou Soundcloud (d'ailleurs beaucoup de rappeurs ou chanteurs R&B le font avant de rencontrer des producteurs) mais quand tu t'apprêtes à sortir un 2ème album ça craint un peu.

 

Du coup, heureusement que Azealia Banks n'a jamais décollé plus que ça, on peut encore la qualifier de chanteuse débutante :mdr: 

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il y a 58 minutes, Roméo. a dit :

C'est idiot de profiter de ce prétexte en or pour complètement dénigrer cette chanson. 

 

On peut aussi avoir trouvé la chanson naze avant cette histoire de logiciel, c'est mon cas.

 

Pour reprendre la formule de voltaboy (mais dans l'autre sens), Christine a quand même le chic d'intellectualiser à fond ce qu'elle fait, que ça soit en terme de musique ou de visuel au point d'en être un peu (souvent) ridicule.

On est quand même en droit de se poser des questions sur la crédibilité de la nana qui nous a quand même teasé pendant des semaines pour, au final, 2 pauvres sons de logiciel superposés qui ont dû prendre 23 secondes de travail. Au-delà de ce 1er single, moi je m'interroge aussi sur ce qui nous attend sur l'album. Après, chacun ses exigences on va dire.

 

Et puis les gimmicks pré-existants sur logiciel, perso ça me fait un peu penser à ça quoi :

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A la limite quand tu es un chanteur débutant qui ne connait aucun producteur et qui n'a pas de "réseau", ce n'est pas grave de reprendre une instru existant déjà sur un logiciel ou Soundcloud (d'ailleurs beaucoup de rappeurs ou chanteurs R&B le font avant de rencontrer des producteurs) mais quand tu t'apprêtes à sortir un 2ème album ça craint un peu.

 

Perso c'est ce qui me fait détester le rap français même si ça commence à aller mieux. Mais les boucles fruity loop juste non quoi.

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Faut regarder la base utilisé pour la vidéo du mec. Peut être Cubase. 

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La vidéo venait d’une story Instagram j’ai oublié le pseudo du mec. Je l’ai partagé hier sur Twitter avant de partir en week end. Pour « mes contacts » (j’avais que 90 abonnés ...) donc bon.

Puis je me suis retrouvé avec 400.000 vues en 24h (sans tags, sans identification etc)

On m’a gentilment demandé de supprimer mon tweet, ce que j’ai fait de suite (je ne dirais pas qui).

Le but était de partager cette découverte un peu loufoque avec mon «peu de contacts » pas de nuire à une artiste, ni faire de la peine à des gens, ou faire un bashing Christine a fait plein d’autres (bonnes) chansons !

 

Mais bon de toute façon la vidéo a refait surface et avec ma tête en prime ... (alors que j’ai juste partagé ...)

 

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Merci pour le lien!

Effectivement, c'est assez abusé venant d'une artiste qui est censée être une vraie créatrice. Après, le morceau est, pour moi, assez naze et surtout déjà entendu: ça ne fait que confirmer que ce lead est une blague.

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Moi je l'ai déjà dit, je trouve le morceau efficace, pas révolutionnaire mais ça s'écoute. Par contre, j'étais à deux doigts de la considérer comme pas mauvaise et travailleuse alors que je l'avais toujours considérée comme une usurpatrice qui tenait juste sur un discours et un look. J'avais raison, c'est bien une usurpatrice mais elle n'estpas la seule. 

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Christine and the queens ne vient pas de sortir le premier single de son premier album, elle a composé et écrit le précédent en entier que je sache donc venir remettre son talent en cause car pour une chanson, elle a mixé des trucs dans un logiciel, c'est juste une GROSSE BLAGUE, elle a déjà composé autrement hein. .

 

Je vois pas où est le problème si elle s'est servi de trucs libre de tout droit et que le résultat lui plaisait, on est pas dans de la musique Jazz, les choses très simples peuvent être très bonnes aussi et c'est le cas du signe qui n'est pas honteux du tout. Puis rien ne dit que dans son album qui paraitre, toutes les chansons ont été faites selon le même procédé. Mais bon c'est sûr qu'aujourd'hui un tweet et on lâche les chiens sur quelqu'un, PFF.

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Cela ne m'empêche pas de la trouver très talentueuse à tous les niveaux. C'est juste une déception qui n'enlève rien à ce qu'elle a réussi jusqu'ici.

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Je profite de ce moment pour dire que Damn, Dis-moi est devenu au fil des semaines mon titre préféré de Christine and the Queens (cela se jouait entre iT et Half Ladies jusqu'alors). Je l'écoute en boucle et il ne me lasse pas.

 

J'adore son phrasé, l'instru est terriblement efficace, le clip est très abouti et les performances sont excellentes !

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Elle s'amusait à chercher de l'inspiration et elle a trouver le son sympas et ça tombait bien que c'était libre de droit... Bon y a pas mort d'homme, combien de chanson à succès sont partie de rien comme ça... C'est toujours mieux qu'un plagiat d'une chanson existente d'un artiste peu connu..  

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      The Loving Cup Nuit 17 à 52 Starshipper Wandering Lovers Photos Souvenirs
      Chaleur Humaine (2014)

      iT Saint Claude Christine Science Fiction Paradis Perdus Half Ladies Chaleur Humaine Narcissus Is Back Ugly-Pretty Nuit 17 à 52 Here
      iTunes Session (2015)

      Chaleur Humaine Christine Who Is It Saint Claude Starshipper Safe And Holy
      Saint Claude (2015)

      iT Saint Claude Tilted Narcissus Is Back The Loving Cup
      Intranquillité (2015)

      Science Fiction Intranquillité Paradis Perdus Amazoniaque
      Christine And The Queens (2015)

      iT Saint Claude Tilted No Harm Is Done (feat. Tunji Ige) Science Fiction Paradis Perdus Half Ladies Jonathan (feat. Perfume Genius Narcissus Is Back Safe And Holy Night 52 Here
      Christine And The Queens (2015)

      Jonathan (feat. Perfume Genius) No Harm Is Done (feat. Tunji Ige) Paradis Perdus The Loving Cup
      Unreleased (Unreleased)

      La Découverte Big Sweaty Mouth I Want You Distance (feat. The Name) 3 A.M. (feat. Twinsmatic)




      Bon, y a 90% de chance pour que se topic flop mais don't care.

    • By Saint Claude
      ​ C'est certainement l'une des artistes françaises qui a passé le plus clair de son temps sur la scène depuis la sortie de son premier album, "Chaleur humaine".



      Du
      où elle présentait son projet aux auditeurs de France Inter lors d'un concert exclusif au Studio 105 - jusqu'à l'automne prochain, pour une tournée des Zéniths, Christine et ses Queens n'ont jamais cessées d'aller à la rencontre du public.


      On retient surtout l'épopée parisienne de la chanteuse :

      Un première date à la Gaîté Lyrique, deux dates à la Cigale et un Olympia...

      (à guichets fermés - of course)



      Au-delà de ça, c'est déjà plus d'une centaine de dates effectuées en 2014-2015.

      Dont quelques-unes Outre-Atlantique!

      Sans compter les festivals qui s'arrachent la présence de l'artiste.



      Et le meilleur reste à venir...



      22 Mai 2015 / CUVES - Festival "Papillons de Nuit"

      23 Mai 2015 / SAINT-BRIEUC - Festival "Art Rock"

      29 Mai 2015 / LAVAL - Festival "Les Trois Éléphants"

      30 Mai 2015 / PARIS - Festival "We Love Green"



      23 Juin 2015 / MARSEILLE - Le Silo

      24 Juin 2015 / AVIGNON - Salle Polyvalente Montfavet

      26 Juin 2015 / MARMANDE - Festival "Garorock"

      28 Juin 2015 / ROTSELAER (Belgique) - Festival "Rock Werchter"



      3 Juillet 2015 / HEROUVILLE SAINT-CLAIR - Festival "Beauregard"

      4 Juillet 2015 / BELFORT - Festival "Eurockéennes"

      6 Juillet 2015 / MONTE-CARLO - Salle des Étoiles

      10 Juillet 2015 / LA ROCHELLE - Festival des "Francofolies"

      11 Juillet 2015 / ARGELÈS SUR MER - Festival "Les Déferlantes"

      12 Juillet 2015 / AIX-LES-BAINS - Festival "Musilac"

      21 Juillet 2015 / NÎMES - Festival "Les Arènes de Nîmes"

      25 Juillet 2015 / CANNES - Festival "Pantiero"

      30 Juillet 2015 / TORONTO (Canada) - Mod Club Theatre

      31 Juillet 2015 / MONTREAL (Canada) - Festival "Osheaga 2015"



      23 Septembre 2015 / TOULOUSE - Zénith

      25 Septembre 2015 / PARIS - Zénith

      26 Septembre 2015 / LILLE - Zénith Arena

      30 Septembre 2015 / NANTES - Zénith Métropole

      2 Octobre 2015 / BRUXELLES - Forest National

      7 Octobre 2015 / DIJON - Zénith

      9 Octobre 2015 / ROUEN - Zénith

      13 Octobre 2015 / GRENOBLE - Summum



      ​Pour celles et ceux qui ont déjà eu le plaisir de voir Christine sur scène,

      n'hésitez pas à partager vos avis et vos souvenirs ici.



      Je place aussi ici quelques vidéos live - extraites de différentes dates,

      afin que vous puissiez (re)voir à quoi ça ressemble...








      BE FIERCE.

      BE COOL.

      BE CHRISTINE.







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